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Interview: Ulises Lorente, Export Manager, EVVA

Interview: Ulises Lorente, Export Manager, EVVA

a&s Adria: Glad to meet you here at Security Essen, Mr. Lorente. Could you tell us more about yourself, your professional and educational background, and your role at EVVA?

Lorente: I am export manager at EVVA company. I deal with sales in every market except Austria and the ones we have subsidiaries in. Our main role is to look for customers in countries we’re already present in or in new ones. We work on our sales and marketing strategies, attend exhibitions, etc. I’ve been working in EVVA for almost seven years. In the beginning I was coordinating sales activities with the subsidiaries in Eastern Europe, mostly Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, and Slovakia. Then I was promoted to Export manager. As for my background, I finished Business Administration at University of Madrid and worked as a consultant for export activities for Spanish Chamber of Commerce.

a&s Adria: A brief history of EVVA?

Lorente: EVVA is a company with a long experience. We were founded in 1919, which means we’re about to celebrate a hundred years in business. Over these years we’ve established ourselves very strongly, expecially in Central European markets. We’re recognized as a manufacturer of premium quality products, mostly based on the access control systems, both mechanical and electronic. We’re not focusing on a lower segment of the market, but on a specific segments, mostly on a business level. We’re working with companies, hospitals, universities, all kind of organizations that require not only one cylinder, but a whole master key system. We’re mostly selling in Europe, Asia and Australia. Now we’re focusing on Eastern and Southern Europe, Middle East, and Asia-Pacific region. In our recent history EVVA has developed very innovative integrated solutions (mechanical and electronic), hence our slogan for the Security Exhibition „Smart New Worlds“.

a&s Adria: Could you present us your product line?

Lorente: We have mechanical and electronical access control systems. Within the mechanical product group, we are specialized in the production of master key systems. Our mechanical product range is based in very innovative key systems which enable us to have a lot of combinations to realize the master key systems for any organization. Within the electronic group we have two product families. One of them is called Xesar, an access control system which is designed to be installed on a local computer. Through this software you can do all the management and tracking. Xesar is targeted at office buildings, hospitalsand industrial buildings, among others. Xesar offers 4 different locking components (escutcheon, handle, cylinder and wall reader). Therefore it can be used in virtually any door withing a project.The products are battery powered and easy to install and assemble. Even though they are offline, thanks to the Xesar Virtual Network, the information flows in the system via the ID media (cards, fobs or combi-keys). The other product family is AirKey, an access control system offering the customer optimal flexibility. The management software is online, and can be thus accessed from anywhere in the world, and enables the sending of authorisations over the Internet to a smartphone (even periodical or limited access authorisations).Thanks to the AirKey app the smartphone is the key.

a&s Adria: What application does the AirKey has?

Lorente: There’s a lot of different applications. For instance, it is a popular solution for apartment owners renting them over the Internet, for example an AirBnb. Today the owner of the apartment has to meet you somewhere to give you the key. With AirKey, hovewer, you can use the function „Send the key“, and the owner does not to meet  the renter to  give the key. Other applications are companies with distributed locations due to the AirKey´s flexibility, e.g. telecommunication companies, which have a lot of antennas spread all over the country. If you have a technical service that needs to service different components, they can call the headquarters and receive the authorization for them.

a&s Adria: On what technology are your products based on?

Lorente: AirKey is based JCOP technology (Java Chip Open Protocol), which is one of the most secure technologies at the market. For instance, In Austria, the banking cards are using NFC chips based on this technology, so it’s being used in applications where you need the latest standards.

a&s Adria: We can here more talks about cyber security. How is your company dealing with those kind of threats?

Lorente: I will focus on AirKey. How do we know this is a secure system?

Security is all around AirKey.First of all, we have a web-based software located in our EVVA servers. For them we have all kind of security: firewalls, redundant servers, and encripted communication. Also the servers are based in Austria, which is a neutral country, and the information is therefore secure. On the communication level we’re using the latest standards in encryption, like the AES 128 bit. It’s a really high encryption level, which means it’s extremely difficult to access the information. Also, as previously mentioned, our ID media (smartphones, cards) work with JCOP technology, one of the most secure ID technologies.

a&s Adria: What if someone steals a mobile phone with credentials on? What’s the response time and means?

Lorente: Here we have to consider several security layers. First of all, our application is working only with an unlocked screen on the smartphone, which means we recommend our customers to use a special PIN or pattern to unlock the screen. Additionally, The application has the possibility to add an additional PIN code, to be entered before using the AirKey system. On the software level, as soon as you realize someone has stolen your mobile phone, you have the possibility to access the AirKey  web based management software from anywhere in the world and block the authorisation.

a&s Adria: What EVVA system would you recommend for SMB’s, and what for a larger company?

Lorente: For a smaller company, I would recommend the AirKey solution. AirKey is an easy to use access control system providing full flexibility and mobility for the end users. For smaller systems, the management kit is kept at the minimum, since your own smartphone can be at the same time the identification medium, the coding station and the programming device, sparing unnecessary costs. Also, the application to use with an AirKey is free of charge. The only payment that we charge for using the software are key credits, a very innovative solution to enable smaller objects to limit the costs on the software licence.

For a larger companies, like a post office, universities, customers tend to profit from the virtual network possibilities on Xesar. With Xesar you can easily manage the system locally and issue new cards via the coding station. Xesar uses the MIFARE DESFIRE technology, more extendedon the market. However, AirKey would also be suitable for bigger systems, depending on the requirements. For instance, if you have different locations, like post offices in different cities, it might be better to take advantage of the AirKey flexibility. It always depends on what kind of solution you are looking for. If you are looking for more flexibility and mobility, you should use AirKey. If you’re based somewhere and you want to run things locally, I would recommend Xesar.

a&s Adria: What can we expect from EVVA in the future?

Lorente: As our slogan „Smart New Worlds“ imply, EVVA will be developing innovative systems in the coming years, always with our customers in mind. The next developments will focus on enabling Bluetooth as a communication form with AirKey. At the moment AirKey can be used with Android smartphones thanks to their NFC chip, but in the near futureAirKey will be also available to be used with Bluetooth. In that way we will be able to address a bigger customer market. We are focusing more on mobility and flexibility, so further features will build up on these concepts. We will have a geotagging system, which means your can use your mobile phone with GPS when innitializing the component to save the GPS coordinates and then track the components on Google maps. For a distributed locations, you can always know where the component is. We’re also going to introduce a hands free solution, which means you can have a mobile phone in your pocket and just by approaching the door, if you have the Bluetooth connected, you will be able to open the door automaticaly. As for Xesar, we’re looking for some kind of integration to offer special solutions in usability.

a&s Adria: Adriatic region market?

Lorente: In the Balkans region we’re working with companies ID Shop, which is covering Slovenia and Croatia, and CP Security, which is focusing on the rest of the markets. On a Serbian market we have started working one year ago, and on a Slovenian three years ago. We are quite satisfied with the development. We have been able to benefit from the existing contacts those companies have. They are aiming at companies and organizations which are looking for high-security master key systems. As you know, we were present at the Adria Security Summit in Belgrade and were quite satisfied from kind of companies that attended the exhibition. They were mostly personnel responsible for security in big companies from the region. Thus, we have been able to present them our solutions depending on their needs.

a&s Adria: Could you name some important projects in Adriatic region?

Lorente: A very important multinational Slovenian company Krka has decided to use EVVA mechanical products on all their premises in different countries and they are going step by step to change the existing systems with the new one. We also worked with European agency in Ljubljana and National bank of Slovenia. EVVA is, however, present all over the world having done installation even in Australia (i.e. for the Curtin University in Perth where we installed 30.000 cylinders on the different faculties) and South East Asia, where EVVA has already delivered their systems to several office buildings.

Interview: Ghislain Kwasny FD Johnson Security

Mr. Kwasny, thank you for joining us today. Could you please give us an overview of your professional background and role at your company?

I’m part of Johnson Security since July 2015 as Business Development and Sales Director for Europe and Francophone Africa. My role is to develop the sales and strategic partnerships across Europe and part of Africa; and for that I work in team with my colleagues; Steve Reeves (VP sales), Valérie Beresford (Marketing and Communication Manager) and Frank Bednarz (Sales manager for central and eastern Europe). I’ve been working in the security industry since 2010 and most specifically in the armoured vehicles business where I specialized in the cash in transit sector, developing solutions for the end users. My main business area remains the cash in transit, where I work on solutions for our customers to protect their people and goods. Johnson Security is the oldest and most important cash in transit products builder in Europe, they started in the 1950’s, and I’m proud of being part of this team; I have been able to bring in my knowledge of the market and I’m glad to be able to learn every day from my colleagues. As you know the security market, and most especially the cash in transit sector, is going through a recession period, due to the economic crisis and the emergence of the new technologies and payment methods. It makes things more challenging, but we have the benefit of a well experienced team to help develop new solutions for our customer to adapt their business to the circumstances.

In 1996, Four Dimensions Johnson Security has twenty years of experience in security industry. Tell us more about your company, what were the most important milestones, when did Johnson become a part of Four Dimensions and what benefit did you gain from that, how do you see your company’s position at the moment?

FDJI founders in China were already involved in the automotive industry in China before starting the Joint Venture with Johnson Security. FD were looking for new solutions to offer to the security companies and investment and saw the security industry as a great opportunity to raise to new challenges. However, FD identified the needs for investing in new technology and getting production experience; that is why they decided to associate with a well renowned and experienced foreign company to create a Joint Venture. In return FD could offer an open door to the Chineses market.

In 2004, FD became the majoriy shareholder of Johnson Security and in 2007 FD became the sole owner of Johnson.

FDJI has developed its opportunity and sales throughout the world with the main players and we are pursuing our growth by offering security vehicles and building products that evolve with our clients and the markets.

A part of your group is also the company KFB-Extramobile, a German manufacturer of ambulances and first response vehicles, which FDJI acquisited in 2010. Why did your company bought KFB-Extramobile, what was the story behind that, and what important technology did you acquire?

FDJI, well aware of the SARS epidemy and the vehicles that were commissioned by KFB straight from Germany recognised the potential and bought KFB in 2010 to grow opportunities in China.

What are your key technologies? 

Johnso Security is specialized in all CIT conversion types, as you already know. The main technologies developped and used  by Johnson are based on the softwares for all type of application, the biometrics detection systems, the remote controls and tracking, the data log remote control. Talking about vehicles, a part of the classic armouring, Johnson is working with composit materials to allow higher payloads and also allow armouring small vehicles.

Present us FD Johnson Security product portfolio? What varieties of products do you manufacture and what applications do they have?

Building Security Products, Specialised Component Manufacture, Cash Centre Solutions, Fire Trucks & Police Vehicle Conversions, other Special Security Vehicles such as Cash-in-Transit Armoured Vans, Customised Ambulances and Secure Mail Trucks, among others.

What product/solution would you single out as your flagship product and why?

Our cash in transit vehicles consist of a wide range of solutions to fit the vehicles to the markets they are used in. Clients from all over the world come to seek for advices and solutions from Johnson Security. And as Johnson has the expertise to also provide cash centre solution we could say that we offer a very clever turn key solution.

What is your maximum annual production capacity at your 30,000 sq meters production facilities and has it matched sales?

The last years have been lower in terms of production, but I can tell you that we have delivered around 200 vehicles to our customers in 2015; matching partially our targets. Johnson’s good years are around 300 vehicles delivered. We aim to get back to these figures soon.

Do don’t only manufacture, you also offer services to repair armoured vehicles? Has being a member of Vehicle Builders & Repairers Association make it easier for you to offer this kind of services?

The VBRA accrediation demonstrates our level of commitment when dealing with services. We have a team of qualified engineers and the multi lingual support staff that are dedicated to help our clients wherever and whenever they are. It is a whole package that makes it a very attractive offer to our clients.

What are the key benefits consumers can expect from FDJI? Is it European quality matched with Chinese fast production, proprietary technology, experience, prices?

FDJI have a very high qualified team of engineers and quality expert who develop new products and solutions in Europe and a fantastic production line in China which provide our assembly line in Europe to build our unique vehicles. So, yes our aim is to provide quality and quantity to our clients at very competitive prices.

What customers do you target and what vertical markets do you focus on?

We work with the bank and retail and luxury industry as well with the emergency services and military sector.

Financial and other institutions in need of your products demand certain standards and certificates as a proof of quality. What standards have you implemented?

We provide our decades of experience to start with which are combined with the usual certificates links to the level of armour vehicles can have, and we can run tests in house or at specialist centres as per requested by our customers. We take quality very seriously and are certifified ISO 9001:2008.

Present us some of the most important references?

We have worked with all the main global players in the security industry from Brinks to Loomis, G4S, and Prosegur.

How do you see security market today, how will security market look like in the following years? What will be major trends?

The security market has massively changed since Johnson Security delivered their first cash in transit vehicles. There is a general trend in the Scandinavian countries that is also spreading through other countries to, “cashless society”. So that is one dilemma for our company which has triggered our efforts to also widen our horizons to other market than just the security market.

Nevertheless turnkey solutions as the one we offer remain a very interesting opportunity for our customers who all need more than ever to save on costs.

What can we expect from Johnson Security in the upcoming years?

Johnson Security is always working on new solutions in collaboration with the end users. We have developed during the last years some new technologies based on our experience in the UK. Years ago, UK has decided to change the way of operating cash transport; giving away the guns and part of the armouring, and moving into a more technologic type of vehicles. Johnson Security has taken a large part in this migration and has developed lots of new systems that are in use today. Based on that experience, we have now adapted these systems to be used in the rest of Europe, and we have started offering them to our customers. Some of them are based on a remote control system of the vehicles, but not a common tracking system to do a localisation of the vehicle and its occupants, we talk of a real control on distance, with image, sound and access to the commands. Johnson Security is also sensitive to the climate issues, and has started to develop an armoured full electric van; which will be presented in 2017 in the UK first and then in the rest of Europe. Finally, we can talk about the new vehicles types coming up end 2016, but this will be announced by then.

Your opinion on Adriatic region market and FDJI’s position in it? Are you looking for new partners, how do you plan to expand your market share, are you pleased with the current share, what are the biggest challenges for your company? 

Part of the strategy of Johnson Security in 2016 has been to learn about the Adriatic region; the sales team has visited several countries and have met with lots of companies, especially in the cash in transit sector. The first impression has been very positive; we have met with nice people, opened to discuss and show their knowledge and with a lot of interest in welcoming a new partner in the market. The main aspects that has caught my attention is the fact that in all the countries visited, the companies who transport cash are not allowed to process it, except the national companies or central banks of course. That’s an interesting phenomenon, as in the western part of Europe, the trend is for the central banks to get rid of the cash processing to pass it to the cash management companies, saving cost and making the cash cycle shorter and more efficient. That should be one of the major point of debate for these companies if they want to see their business expand in the next years. As Johnson Security did in the past, we would be glad to take part of this change, and we expect it to happen. We have a grand expertise in the cash management and we have been supporting major companies to build their cash centres in the UK and overseas, as an example Johnson Security has been giving support and consultancy to the Post Office for many years. At the moment, we have no customer in the region, but we really wish and hope to have an opportunity soon to demonstrate our capacity and show our quality to the customer.

Tell us something about FDJI’s relations towards its partners, dealers, resellers… How do you support and benefit them? Do you organize trainings and seminaires? Warranty and service?

JSL being based in the UK; we have to work with partners in most of the countries, locally. Our collaboration is based on high quality service, and if we can’t get this standard, we don’t operate, at least until we find the right partner. The partners we are seeking, in most of the cases are in charge of servicing the products we sell along the years, we ensure the customer to have an interlocutor locally, available, qualified and of course speaking the same language. All our partners are fully trained on the maintenance of our products, directly in our facilities, and have periodic updates to ensure the optimum service to our customers. We support them thanks to our remote diagnosis system, which allow us to assist the customer immediately and also to localize any incident instantly. We work to deliver the best quality to our customers for their satisfaction, a good product doesn’t need much repairs.

In the end, your company is a Gold sponsor at Adria Security Summit 2016 in Belgrade. Do you find it a good opportunity for you to penetrate this market and why? What were your impressions from the last one?

Johnson Security attended Adria 2015. It was a very interesting first visit and we decided to come this year as we have developed new dialogues with companies in the Adriatic market. The proximity of the market and the fact that we go there physically make the initial exchange much more real and enthusiastic which may be key to future commercial deals in the region.

Interview: Alex Zanga, sales manager for Eastern Europe and Scandinavia, Grundig Security

Interviewed: Damir Muharemović

E-mail: redakcija@www.asadria.com

a&s Adria: Mr. Zanga, thank you for joining us today. Before we get into the details of Grundig’s security solutions, could you please give us an overview of your professional background and role at your company? (how and when did you started working for Grundig, what business area are you in charge with, what is it like working for a globaly renowned company, in what way does it supplements your career and is there something interesting from the time spent in your company you would like to highlight to our readers) 

A. Zanga: I work for Grundig since April 2012. And I felt very excited since my very first day working for Grundig. I have decided for Grudnig because it’s a great opportunity to work for a famous German brand. My responsibility is  Eastern European market as well as Nordic countries. It involves working with distributors, system integrators, after sales service, projects etc etc.

a&s Adria: Grundig is a renowned company dating even back to 1930’s. However, it had many turmoils trying to maintain its market position and expand into different product areas. Security division was no exception. Some would say that Grundig Security lost momentum in the video surveillance market. What changes did you have to take to gain your position back and how do you see Grundig’s position today? (tell us in general the history of your security division and its important milestones?)

A. Zanga: Actually Grundig history as a security brand goes back to 1953. So since 1953 and till 1997 Grundig was qualitative market leader and pace maker in the market of security systems, esp. for large installation and high end products. In 1997 GRUNDIG Electronics for Professional Security applications was acquired by Plettac & disapeared from the security market. Since that time a lot of things have changed in our business and we had to adopt. And in 2010 Grundig was back on security market with impressing and completely new product portfolio. In 2012 Grundig became part of Dutch holding TKH Group NV. This partnership gave a big boost for product development and presenting new technologies. So now in 2015 I can easily say that Grundig is back in the game. Since our comeback Grundig became again a valuable player on Security market.

a&s Adria: Tell us more about yours product range? What varieties of product do you manufacture and what applications do they have? 

A. Zanga: Grundig is offering whole range of security products for every market segment. In our portfolio you can find 1,3 and up to 4K high standard IP cameras with excellent image quality. We offer recording solutions, professional CCTV monitors as well HD-TVI and analogue products. We have solutions for all verticals. For example we have 3 product lines: Grundig Connect, Grundig Professional and Grundig Top line which meets every customer needs. So easily saying Grundig Connect has basic features, good quality and strong price. Grundig professional has complete features, top quality and reasonable price.  And finally Grundig Top line has advanced features, highest specification and value for money.

a&s Adria: What are the key benefits consumers can expect from Grundig? Your company has implemented Sony Xarina (Exmor) and ImmerVision’s panomorph lens technology. Tell us something about those technologies and what did you gain by implementing them?

A. Zanga: Yes indeed technology partners are very important for us at Grundig. First of all our IP cameras with Sony Xarina technology in combination with Exmor Sensors delivers: Superior Image Quality, Real True Color, Highest Sensitivity and Extremely Sharp image quality.  Our Panomorph cameras with ImmerVision technology delivers great 360° image using 6MP resolution and can replace several standard IP in some applications. For example you can use one Panomorph camera to secure small shop or pharmacy instead of 2 or 3 standard cameras.

a&s Adria: Market slowly moves to IP. At the same time, HD-over-Coax is prolonging the analog and each year gaining a larger market share. What’s Grundig’s position on this matter? Do you plan to make a total transition to IP or are you planning to offer some form of HD-over-Coax solution?

A. Zanga: Of course most new installation comes based on IP technolgies already but still there is a demand in analogue products. Because there could always be some applications where you can’t or not alowed to put IP networks. We are offering products based on two HD over coax technologies: Ex-SDI and HD-TVI. In order to all our customers could have perfect Full HD image quality no matter which cabling they are using.

a&s Adria: Recent market researches show that companies offering a total solution are increasing their market share and profit. Do you plan to expand your porfolio into another security area and what area would that be? What in general can we expect from Grunding in the upcoming year?

A. Zanga: Grundig developped from being a supplier of components to a supplier of video surveillance systems. In the future development Grundig wants to become a provider of solutions. Together with develoment teams in the TKH Group we have plans to expand in other sectors of security market as well. It will be exciting which surprises Grundig will have in the comming years.

a&s Adria: Integration is a must have today. With what VMS systems are yours products compatible with and what standards have you implemented?

A. Zanga: Most of the VMS platforms support Grundig. We are using ONVIF Profile S protocol which is supoprted by the 99,9% of VMS platforms. All reliable VMS vendors have done a native integration with Grundig IP cameras.

a&s Adria: What vertical market/s do you focus on?

A. Zanga:  We are very succesfull in Retail, Banking and City Surveilance. In the last years these were our top verticals. We have delivered lots of our products exactly there. These verticals selecetion comes from our partners. Our partners are sticked to these verticals. They are very strong in this business. Some of our partners are doing projects only for retail. Some ofthem only for Banks etc etc. And we support them in all kind of ways to win as much projects as possible. This kind of „team work“ brings good results for our partners and of course us.

a&s Adria: Present us some of your most important recent installations which were hardest to implement or have some sort of cultural, historical or national significance?

A. Zanga: One of my personal valuable projects was exactly on Adriatic region. It was a solution for SKB Bank in Slovenia and High Security Prison in Kosovo. I have spent many hours to create the solution for the end user. Both projects are successfully finished now and our equipment is working perfect. Unfortunately we’are not able to name more details about High Security Prison in Kosovo. Hope you understand why. But regarding the SKB Bank project in Slovenija  I can give some more information. SKB Bank required a video surveillance system that provided a high degree of protection to customers and staff, both inside and outside its premises. Internally, cashier desks, public floor areas and doorways were to be protected. Externally, ATMs were to be covered, along with some perimeter walls and all of the bank’s entrances. The new system’s image quality had to enable the positive identification of people and allow security staff to verify items at the cashier points, such as bank notes and critical documentation. GRUNDIG partner in Slovenia system’s Integrator VTZ d.o.o., was chosen by the bank to design and install the new video surveillance system. VTZ installed 135 indoor and outdoor Grundig cameras. Mr Aleksander Jeras, general manager for VTZ, added, “We selected cameras from the Grundig range for a number of reasons. They have been used by the SKB’s parent company, Société Générale, where they have successfully proven their image quality and reliability. The image quality met our customer’s data specifications, namely recognising bank notes and documents. The new video surveillance system offers the bank a number of significant  features, both at local and national levels. It enables operators to identify people in front of the cashier desks and provides both day and night surveillance using IR LED technology. The system has also coordinated all the bank’s CCTV onto a single platform, providing a comprehensive view of the entire bank’s security needs. SKB Bank in Slovenia is impressed with the quality of the installation and camera images.

a&s Adria: Tell us something about Grundig’s relations towards its partners, dealers, resellers… How do you support and benefit them? Do you organize trainings and seminaires?

A. Zanga: Customer care is one of our strongest sides. We always try to be closer to our partners. That is why we do continuously product trainings and seminars. We also try to not forget the entertament side. We organize annualy campaigns for our partners where they can enjoy some football games, attend on Oktoberfest in Germany or visit some car museums in Germany.

a&s Adria: Your opinion on Adratic region market and Grundig’s position in it? (Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, Slovenia, Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro and Kosovo). Are you looking for new partners, how do you plan to expand your market share, are you pleased with the market share, how do plan to expand, etc? What are the major challenges you have to face with?

A. Zanga: Yes, adriatic region is on my priority list now. Of course not everything is so smooth and easy. As we are European manufacturer we have faced some price problems before. But I’m sure we are over it with our new Connect line up. So I am always open for business opportunities in all Adriatic countries. Project business is growing each year so I’m looking forward to identify new system integrators in the Adriatic region. Specially with our new Budget GRUNDIG Conneft line up I expect we could do some significant sales in this region.

a&s Adria: Does your effort in Adriatic region includes promotion as security events and is Adria Security Summit as a largest event that gathered over 150 companies – an important opportunity to present your company? 

A. Zanga: I had a luck to participate on Adria Security Summit this year. And to be honest I was very surprised how well orginized everything was. Lots of Adriatic Security market key players was there. Easy and friendly atmosphere. So I see this summit is a great opportunity for professionals to meet and discuss business opportunities. So I plan to attend for the nex event as well.

a&s Adria: How do you see security market today, what will security market look like in the following years? What will be major trends?

A. Zanga: In my opinion everything will go to integration. I mean different systems should be integrated into one platform. Market needs showing us that everything should be controlled from one platform. Like access control, CCTV, fire and intrusion systems should be controlled from our powerful platform. With all analytics and statistics inside. I see this as a major trend on global market at the moment.

a&s Adria: What do you think about the entrance of IT companies into security, especially affecting certain areas such as video analytics, integration etc.? Will it contribute to higher interoperability and unification of security systems and products?

A. Zanga: I know a lot about this trend very well because I was working for some years for IT Company in the past. In my opinion this could bring some fresh blood to our business. Security business is quite conservative so this could bring us new people, new business models and of course new technologies. As a result we could offer wider portfolio and end user could get a better service.

Interview: Tanya Spencer, head of Women in Security, ASIS Europe

a&s Adria: Dear Ms.Spencer, in the very beginning, thank you very much for your time and intention to answer few questions for the readers of our magazine. Would you be kind to tell us something more about your professional career to date? What droves a lady to build her professional career within security industry?

Tanya Spencer: I’ve owned TrainingSolutions, a risk, security and crisis management company, for over 11 years. During the early part of my career, I was a human rights monitor and conflict resolution trainer which meant I was working in quite dangerous locations yet none of the sending organizations had trained me in travel security. Along the way, I experienced security incidents like robbery but I just thought it was a part of working in such places. After I was interrogated in Pristina by the secret police in the late 1900s (this was before the Kosovo war had started so the police didn’t want me reporting on human rights violations), I was furious with my sending organization for not preparing me. After that, I developed security awareness courses. At the time, courses for travelers were focused on physical security whereas my courses were about analysis and awareness so I worked with several training agencies to integrate my approach. Even though having a background as a human rights monitor and conflict resolution trainer may seem quite far from the security industry, for me there has been a ‘red thread’ in my professional career which focuses on enabling people to live and work safely.

a&s Adria: What do you think women brings to the industry?

Tanya Spencer: It’s about diversity and the benefits that comes from having different perspectives.

a&s Adria: Your engagement within ASIS’s Women in Security Working Group, as well as its very existence is, shows us the existence of certain challenges that are imposed to women in security industry. What are the common challenges faced to women who choose to build their professional career in the security industry? 

Tanya Spencer: The challenges come in many shapes and forms. I’ve heard numerous stories from WiS members about clients paying women contractors less money and male colleagues being openly hostile and discriminatory. Meanwhile, there are many who claim these challenges do not exist therefore groups such as WiS should not exist.

In my position as the Strategic Lead for WiS in Europe, one of my challenges is the fact that many women security professionals don’t want to be defined by their gender so they avoid being associated with the WiS label. I completely understand as I felt the same way – I previously declined several opportunities to be more involved with WiS until I stopped seeing it as a somewhat negative label on myself and starting viewing it as an opportunity to improve ASIS through inclusion, representation, and better service for its members.

a&s Adria: It is possible to measure the number of women in security or measure growth trends? Can we talk about the figures representing women in security globally or we can only discuss an assumption based on experience? How many female professional members we have in ASIS to date? How many ASIS Chapters around the globe actually have a Women in Security Liaison?

Tanya Spencer: The defining element of my WiS European strategy is that all 24 European chapters will increase the number of women members by 1% and the same applies for leadership positions by Fall 2014. Part of my task is to establish benchmarks – right now not all the chapters have reported their baseline figures and future goals but it looks like women make up 10-15% of ASIS membership in Europe.

I can give antedotal examples for instance at the ASIS European conference in April 2014, out of nearly 600 attendees only 54 were women. In the Austrian chapter, the first woman joined a few months ago. In Europe, only about a third of the chapters have identified a WiS focal point who will champion WiS in their chapter.

a&s Adria: Whether these challenges differ with respect to cultural, traditional and developmental characteristics of certain areas and to the stage of industry development wholly? Can we say that the level of women integration in the security industry with a qualitative and quantitative point of fact, in a certain way says about the overall stage of development of this promising and rapidly growing industry?

Tanya Spencer: Part of the challenge is definitely that there are fewer women in this industry but part of it is recognizing that many women security professionals work in new/non-traditional branches such as IT security, bio-security, intelligence and NGOs. Part of my task is to support the chapters with ‘thinking out of the box’ by identifying and reaching out to these branches so that ASIS is more inclusive and reflective of the changing face of security.

a&s Adria: The group WIS, which was originally formed in 2009 with a few dozen members is being transferred from ASIS’s strategic operations department to its education department. What are the main program objectives of ASIS’s Women in Security Working Group and how are such program goals implemented in our real life? Does the implementation of these objectives have enough broad support and understanding of the industry? Can you tell us more about ASIS’s Women in Security Working Group, about its goals and objectives?

Tanya Spencer: The official mission statement is: “To provide support and assistance to women in the security industry as well as to inspire those interested in entering the security industry through tailored programming and mentoring. WIS will support and promote its global members by utilizing collaborated skills and talents to strengthen leadership abilities.”

For me, the membership statement “While the group’s benefits and programs are tailored for women, we encourage and welcome the participation of all ASIS members who are dedicated to the support of women in the security industry.” includes the important aspect that WiS membership is inclusive – it is for those who want to increase the numbers and impove the role of an underrepresented group. I truely believe that diversity will make ASIS a better network.

a&s Adria: The security industry continues to change and evolve and today security, both traditional and cyber, is one of the fastest growing sectors in the world. Thanks to the clients diversity in gender, ethnicity, religion, and race, and as such, it is now increasingly important to encourage more women into the security industry, to bridge the gender gap in what is generally perceived to be a male dominated industry. How to support the women in security industry systematically, especially when  talking about their assignments in the area of risk analysis, business continuity and training?  Can we say that the lack of female professionals in these positions actually just a reflection of the general lack of women in management positions in any other industry?

Tanya Spencer: The traditional career path into the security industry has been through the police or military. Women are underrepresented in those branches so it makes sense that there are fewer of them who then step into the security industry. However, increasingly, the career path is changing and opportunities are expanding. For example, security management courses are springing up all over the world therefore women and men can join this exciting industry through that channel.

a&s Adria: How has the increase in security education courses affected the new intake and next generation? What is it that we can do all together, as professionals and colleagues, in order to enable the women to feel comfortable in the industry?

Tanya Spencer: The career boosting elements are the same for men and women – Networking, mentoring, and recognition are all good starting points. Male colleagues do these things for each other so it is essential that they understand that if they identify a female colleague with a lot of potential then to ‘champion’ her in the same way that they would do for a male colleague – introduce her to the right people, mentor her to exploit career opportunities, and make sure her contributions are recognized.